Has anyone on the forum grown these? If so, any comments about them? Any thoughts about the parentage(s)?
I got them just because they’re yellow. Fryer’s Nursery’s web site says they’re wonderful.
Peter
I’ll never understand the UK’s fascination for naming yellow roses for anything remotely related to teeth =/ I’m guessing gold=happy=smiles? lol…
Anyhow, I have found Fryer’s roses to be an extreme mixed bag. The one thing you can usually guarantee, tho, is that most of Fryer’s HTs are medium, compact plants (like 3’x3’) with small blooms for an HT (like 4"). Thier yellows often come from either the Whisky Mac (like Pot of Gold) line, New Day (like Helmut Schmidt) or the Sunblest line. I imagine they must have tried using Freedom at some point, too. Whatever is in them, dont expect the giant yellows bred in America. Also, expect the chance that they’ll bloom in sprays. From personal experience, most of the Fryer’s roses make for better pollen parents. There are a few exceptions.
I wish I could tell you more. Good luck tho =)
They look like the same color, and were released about the same time. I’m thinking they’re siblings, whatever they’re from.
From the petal shapes, the color tone, the foliage and the bloom size, I am inclined to say that theyre also related to Rotary Sunrise, which I grew for 4 years. It was very clean but bloomed very little and had low vigor. The blooms did resist rain very well tho. It was a poor seed parent but the pollen was plentiful and easy to get.
I am actually wondering if Golden Smiles is somehow related to Day Breaker because the petal and bloom shape reminds me of some seedlings (Day Breaker x Sunita) that I grew from it that were also yellow.
At any rate, the thing that I am sure of is that Fryer’s HTs and FLs are very similar. Their FLs are usually large flowered in small clusters and their HTs are often smaller flowered in small clusters. They both tend to blur the class line. Theyre usually pretty healthy. They usually LOATHE heat. And they often make for better pollen parents. Those are the patterns typical of Fryers roses in as much as I have experienced.
My personal advice is to make sure to marry them with something with decent vigor as well as heat tolerance.