I have been given the “okay” to share the names of the 2 CP introductions. They are being named ‘Lemonade’ and ‘Pink Lemonade’. Guess which one is the yellow one. 
The series name for this group will be Eyeconic™. Most of the Hulthemias have had good fragrance, and the yellow one is pleasing to my nose. These will breed repeat blooming Hulthemias. It will be interesting to see what people think of them.
Jim Sproul
That’s great, Jim! Congratulations. What’s their parentages, please? Kim
Appropriate series name! Very nice, and congratulations.
Congratulations, Jim! Are ‘Lemonade’ and ‘Pink Lemonade’ fertile both ways?
Cool, like those names – are they registered yet?
Thank you all!
Hi Kim,
As you know, I love keeping track of seedling parentages, however, with this line of breeding I have taken a different approach to speed up generation time. The parentages for many of our Hulthemias is not completely certain. Early on, I found that many of the Hulthemias with the best eyes had lower fertility. To not waste time with failed crosses, I have regularly mixed Hulthemia pollen to increase hip take, and would use brand new immature seedlings with good blotches. For Eyeconic
Thank you Jim! A nursery person friend has sent me a plant of Lemonade. How it came from CP, I don’t know and the information wasn’t shared. I’m intrigued by the thick canes the plant created. They’re between half an inch and three quarters of an inch. I hope it makes it. It had “sat happily in a bucket of water far too long” according to the email. The rootstock looks interesting, too. Four, thick, straight roots from the union like “legs”. I can’t wait to see what this one does. Congratulations and thank you, again! Kim
We usually do the name registration with ARS in the fall for publication in the Rose Annual issue. Eyeconic will be a registered Trademark with the USPTA and we are applying for the patent of Sprolem and Sprolempink(the variety names).
Have to say… the series name ‘Eyeconic’ is pretty cool too
congrats (tempered just ever so slightly with jealousy)- have been following your exploits with huge interest, especially since I am planning on dipping my tootsies into the turbulent waters of hybridising. Dieback - ya don’t say. I have been shocked at the desperate dieback on Alissar, PoP (Harkness)although Eyes for You is chugging along, looking quite lush and healthy, given my mean and careless nurturing attempts.
Will be hungering for more info (but I have also noticed you are not ungenerous with tips and advice). Cheers, Suzy (A totally novice first-time hopeful, despite advancing years and waistline)
…So far recommended only for the climates were black spot is not a big issue…
Hmmmm… that is too bad…black spot or no black spot, it will be great to have these here, if we ever do!
PErsian Flame has remained blackspot and die-back free. Too bad its pretty much sterile. Has anyone tried Roses are Red, its sister? The foliage doesnt look as good, but maybe its fertile.
Roses are Red seems to be fertile both ways although it requires persistence. As a plant it is very similar to the other Moore hulthemias in being pretty rangy and thorny. The foliage is similar as well, maybe a tad more dark and glossy.
I got both Roses Are Red and Persian Sunset when Nor’East/Greenheart dropped it’s retail line. Last year was their first full season with me, both still in pots. I tried a number of crosses both ways with both plants. I got seeds from several crosses, but the only germinations were from Orange Honey X Roses Are Red and Golden Angel X Roses Are Red. I had several germinations from Golden Angel X Roses Are Red, but none of the seedlings thrived. All declined and have been discarded. I only got two germinations from Orange Honey X Roses Are Red, but both seem vigorous. They’ve been potted up and moved to the patio. Both are putting on new growth. I’ve repeated the cross this year already.
Mark
Mark, it’s ironic you chose Orange Honey. The last time Jim Delahanty and I went to lunch with Ralph, his daughter, Eleanor and her husband, Roland, Ralph was hurriedly jotting down crosses using Orange Honey. He said he thought there was a lot more to it no one had explored. Good luck with your babies of it. Prove him right! Kim
I have a few hybrids of Persian Sunset, but I don’t know (except one) how they look because they bloom only once-- except the one that is repeat blooming (and heavily so.)
One rose that I planted out this year (Persian Sunset X Betty Boop) seems to be disease resistant, although-- I don’t know if it has the halo or not.
This year, I got on single germination of Persian Sunset X Persian Light, and I hope it will be a repeat blooming (the fact it germinated so quickly makes me hope so at least.) I hope that, even if this rose isn’t disease free-- to be a good parent that passes on the halo easily.
A big thanks to Jim Sproule for the information on Hybrid Hulthemias. The local rose society enjoyed the article I did on them in the newsletter. I now have two Persian Sunsets happily growing in pots in the backyard and Hubby is talking of plans for adding more raised beds in the yard so I have more room for more of my hybridized roses.
I am wondering about the ‘Halo’ term in Moore´s breeding lines.
Does it mean something like the hulthemia blotch or is it simply a synonym or a trade mark?
Ralph was fascinated by the Hulthemia “blotch”. He massaged his “blotch” from Anytime and marketed it as a “Halo”. To him, the red “haloed” the stamen. His double “halo”, Halo Rainbow, had the central halo and a picotte. For once, he actually thought in marketing terms.
Hm,
no idea about halophytes ?
Like Potentilla argyrophylla?