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Dr. Basye states here that Commander Gillette, 77-361 and The Probable Amphidiploid all grew at The Huntington Library and material would be made available for the cost of postage. After reading this in 1987, I went on the hunt for these roses. Only two had been received and were growing in The Study Plot there: The Probable Amphidiploid and “Basye’s Thornless”. The Accession Card File only listed two roses received from Dr. Basye: The Probably Amphidiploid and 77-361. The rose, Basye’s Legacy", IS the rose sent by Dr. Basye as 77-361, which grew at The Huntington. It is from that plant, I collected the cuttings which went on to be christened “Basye’s Legacy”.
If this is in fact the correct interpretation of his writings, then consideration might be given to correct comments about this probable amphidiploid which suggest it was created through the use of colchicine to induce doubling, as for example found here and here, to reflect this.
What do you think about this?
Sorry if I have things mixed up here and please let me know if I have !
Description of Basye’s “Probable Amphidiploid” origination is quite identical to that of “Rosa hordesii”.
Just as in later case, one can gave strong doubts about the improbable self fecondation of the rare viable 2n ovules and pollen in a garden with a lot tetraploid roses species, hybrids and industrious natural pollinators.
The reason I posted what I did was just to correct what appeared to be an error on a web database (see above, has since been amended through the course of time) regarding how The Probable Amphidiploid was produced.
If I read Dr Basye’s article correctly, my interpretation of what is written is that the probable amphidiploid was not produced using colchicine treatments as had been suggested somehwere on the web before subsequent correction (I am repeating what I stated further up here)…rather that it was a product of nature, and the work of ?bees / insects in his garden.
As I implied in another thread this week, the “Alba-ness” from a seedling from one of the sets of seeds I germinated from Henry several years ago, implies to me that Amphidiploid is likely a descendant of R. moschata, since some core, dominant traits align with this hybrid, R. moschata, R. alba, and R. damascena.
Is this a fact? No, but its a strong probability, and one that I am really enjoying when mixed with Cinnamonae types, which takes their rustic edge off in a pleasant way.
I am also enjoying watching my Basye’s Legacy (probable amphidiploid X commander gillette) seedling grow, it is FINALLY just starting to grow stems after 8-9 months post germination.
It has two tiny stems like a “V” configuration, one has tiny bristles I can just make out, the other is smooth. NO prickers as such so far, which means nothing of course.